tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8503889855562099029.post2993654700162949212..comments2024-03-10T05:06:25.309-04:00Comments on Livia Blackburne: What's Your Internet Code of Conduct?Livia Blackburnehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15805379309049803903noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8503889855562099029.post-85976533276174612242011-04-10T21:41:08.613-04:002011-04-10T21:41:08.613-04:00I commend you for even considering that there shou...I commend you for even considering that there should be a code of conduct - most people don't. I think that when it comes to something like neuroscience, which (from this layman's perspective) tends to be a subject full of empirical evidence, there is absolutely nothing wrong with voicing corrections.<br /><br />It's a different story when it comes to something as subjective as writing and publishing. I came over here from Nathan Bransford's blog, and I think I know the scenario to which you are referring. I don't think that any kind of involvement in something like that is necessary. It's sad, really. I didn't comment on it, but I wish I had never read it.<br /><br />Great blog here, Livia! I'm following now.Matthew MacNishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03264738483763244969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8503889855562099029.post-25143952706930391312011-02-10T23:53:12.918-05:002011-02-10T23:53:12.918-05:00How funny! I just blogged about Internet etiquette...How funny! I just blogged about Internet etiquette for writers. My view is this: Never put anything in writing you don't want the world to see.<br /><br />Here's my blog article:<br /><br />http://norabpeevy.blogspot.com/2011/01/see-no-writing-evil-hear-no-writing.html<br /><br />-NoraNora B. Peevyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00726206041488220699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8503889855562099029.post-85555311825281334862011-02-05T20:46:39.013-05:002011-02-05T20:46:39.013-05:00Thanks for the thoughts, everyone!
Twaza - that...Thanks for the thoughts, everyone! <br /><br />Twaza - that's an interesting suggestion for rule 3. I think mine would be to wait at least a few hours, and always remember tha tpeople can see me responding. If there's a factual error, then I'll let myself argue the facts politely. If it's a subjective thing though, there's basically no way to argue it without seeming defensive, so I'd just not reply, I think. What do you think?Livia Blackburnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15805379309049803903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8503889855562099029.post-83285858777012328522011-02-05T11:39:15.141-05:002011-02-05T11:39:15.141-05:00Interesting post. I guess my code of conduct is s...Interesting post. I guess my code of conduct is similar to yours. I find that most people ask my opinion as an excuse to tell me theirs, and I prefer to go to the source as opposed to relying twitter feeds or Facebook postings. :)DL Hammonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02007260062331783715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8503889855562099029.post-10099918418634007412011-02-03T11:35:49.789-05:002011-02-03T11:35:49.789-05:00Scott Westerfield and Maureen Johnson both wrote v...Scott Westerfield and Maureen Johnson both wrote very interesting blog posts about this very subject.<br /><br />It's interesting. My code of conduct tends to be first and foremost: civility. I think there's always a polite way to express something, and if I can't figure out what that is, I simply don't say it. I can't tell you the number of times I've been incensed into writing a thesis of a response, gone to the "Post Comment" button, and stopped.<br /><br />If there's one thing a good education has taught me, it's that a sound, civil argument is the only way to enter the fray of a comment war like the one at BitchMagazine 100 list. It looks unprofessional to mock others for their opinions, even if their opinions are on your own work/thoughts/mental-capacity.Lauren Harrishttp://lscribeharris.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8503889855562099029.post-39972986439223273882011-02-03T09:22:42.576-05:002011-02-03T09:22:42.576-05:00I think that is one of the reasons I don't hav...I think that is one of the reasons I don't have a Twitter acct! I cannot tell you how many times I have thought something in my head and later been glad that I did not say it aloud. I think with Twitter I'd be tempted to tweet those things that I probably shouldn't even say...probably thinking I was all funny, but you never know.....<br /><br />Internet code for me: THINK before you post. Be polite.storyqueenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07039684494823420722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8503889855562099029.post-51802415923855318552011-02-03T08:13:47.755-05:002011-02-03T08:13:47.755-05:00Since this is my professional presence, I try to a...Since this is my professional presence, I try to always be professional. Not that I never express an opinion, but I strive to do it with respect, and recognize that it's just that: my *opinion*.<br /><br />And sometimes I just have to let things go that bother me and pick my battles. Just like with my family. ;-)Gwen Hernandezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01394401588845644494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8503889855562099029.post-31001395369455676842011-02-03T01:47:36.579-05:002011-02-03T01:47:36.579-05:00Rules 1 and 2 are a good starting point for an int...Rules 1 and 2 are a good starting point for an internet code of conduct. <br /><br />Rule 3 should be about the appropriate response when you have been told that you are wrong or offensive (as I know from experience!). What do think it should be?twaza (@wassabeee on twitter)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11078200068429582694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8503889855562099029.post-57604567925588560622011-02-02T22:34:05.595-05:002011-02-02T22:34:05.595-05:00I think it's wise to have such a policy in pla...I think it's wise to have such a policy in place. What I try to think about when I want to belch vitriol into a comment section or forum is that the internet moves incredibly fast and while the data is "forever," really nothing is permanent. Next week the arguement is likely to be moot. And, if it's not, such as some really hot-button issue that'll never die, then at least I can take pride in not being one of "those" people.Ashleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8503889855562099029.post-72294437839047134872011-02-02T21:40:33.696-05:002011-02-02T21:40:33.696-05:00Jeffrey - now I'm going to have to go look up ...Jeffrey - now I'm going to have to go look up who Julia Sugarbaker is :-)<br /><br />Donald - I can see your point about fairness. Although, if you are talking about something without naming names, then I'm not sure how relevant it would be. The scenario I have in mind is this: say someone on a webpage says blatanetly wrong fact X about the brain. I write something debunking fact X. in that case, I'm not sure it's really necessary for people to follow the link over to the first post. Now, if I were ascribing opinions to someone and disagreeing with them, then yes. I do agree that you need to link to their original words. And I agree with you about traffic. I think it varies from case to case. For example, I'm pretty sure the tiger mother was happy about all the publicity she got. On the other hand,Cooks source wasn't.<br /><br />Meg -- good policy to stick with facts<br /><br />EJ - good for you for taking a stand. I'm still thinking about the review thing myself. Right now I'm sidestepping the whole issue by not doing reviews on my blog.Livia Blackburnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15805379309049803903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8503889855562099029.post-15264775660752807622011-02-02T21:31:16.791-05:002011-02-02T21:31:16.791-05:00I like the 2nd rule, and do that myself. I try to...I like the 2nd rule, and do that myself. I try to make my arguments as broad as possible so as not to come off as a personal attack. I do that for one big reason: I don't know any of these people from Jack. They're probably fine human beings, who just happen to believe or say something I disagree with. <br /><br />For instance, I recently took a stand agains weak book reviews on blogs AND the agents who are encouraging people to do them. (Essentially strong arming prospective authors into only saying good things about books for fear of ticking off an agent/editor.) I didn't name names, but people know where the stories are coming from.<br /><br />Everyone wants to be published and/or have a successful writing career. No one wants to be put on 'the list'. However, when you cease to stand by your convictions or have an opinion to make those things happen, I think you've completely compromised what it means to be an artist. <br /><br />In other words, I totally agree with you. <br /><br />EJAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00273059558675234923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8503889855562099029.post-64175862504837027102011-02-02T21:27:46.480-05:002011-02-02T21:27:46.480-05:00I try to always use strong language not in the cur...I try to always use strong language not in the cursing/snarky sense, but in the actual strong words that describe how I feel about the situation. Then I back it up with facts. This way we can have a discussion about actual facts instead of a mud-sling competition where we just insult people.Meghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05379614186579652334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8503889855562099029.post-77244670061209502082011-02-02T21:21:19.454-05:002011-02-02T21:21:19.454-05:00While I appreciate your efforts, linking to the pe...While I appreciate your efforts, linking to the people you comment on has been one of the great innovations of the blogosphere. It drives traffic, but more importantly from a fairness point of view, it allows people to read the article themselves and form their own opinions. More than once, I've visited a site expecting to be outraged because of something another blogger had told me about it, and found it to be rather innocuous. Without that link, I couldn't have given it a fair hearing and reached my own conclusions.<br /><br />And don't underestimate the driving traffic part. The magazine may not like the tone of the debate on their website, but they're not at all sad about the huge influx of hits.Donald S. Crankshawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12571080573039473056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8503889855562099029.post-45622878877628396812011-02-02T20:44:30.622-05:002011-02-02T20:44:30.622-05:00I don't have one per se, but if I did, it woul...I don't have one per se, but if I did, it would probably best be described as Julia Sugarbaker on one of her tirades. (I don't know that such a policy is advisable, however.) My righteous indignation is overly developed and could use some reining in. Thank for the food for thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com